So I cracked open some VPN software, and then an incognito browser session and got to work. Today, however, Im left flabbergasted. What if your subscription is through Apple? There is no need to download any third-party apps to view your Apple Watch workouts on Strava. Yup, correct for AUS/Canada, local dollars. US-based subscriber with a renew date (annual) is 28 Jan 2023. Seriously, thats literally what it says. Will it show me "do 120% FTP for X Seconds", then "recover @ 60% FTP for x Seconds", etc.? If you were happy with the features of a cheaper subscription and then had to pay for features you dont use I would say the price of your subscription just went up. Also, fun fact: I cant actually find any place to update said country/address. And being a couple days out of subscription Im surprised at the petty things that are being denied now. It makes me wonder if the company is already coming to terms with how theyve tread in their own pigsty. I will not continue using Strava is the price goes up. So I was a Strava subscriber for 2 years. U.K in . (Did they both do the same as Peloton and over-spend and now we are having to pay for it? Garmin Connect has it's own training plans. The deal was 60 days free, then $80/yr (US). This then changed to 47.99 in Sep 2020. Links to websites should be avoided. Garmin activities will sync only to the most recently created Strava account (the account with the highest athlete ID). In case it hasnt been noticed (I havent checked the comments) your table shows $11.99 per month for US but the following paragraph puts it at $12.99 / month. Price increase is visible on Google Play subscriptions page, but havent had any notification from Strava directly (yet?). Im US based, currently at $59.99 scheduled to renew at $59.99 July 30th. This happens through delivering you value on a daily basis through new features, product updates and services. Once the data is loaded into the Garmin app, it will appear in your Strava account just like you were using the app natively. Another way to add an activity from Garmin Connect to Strava is to use the Share button on the activity page on Garmin Connect. All subscriptions need to be registered in the Apples App Store Connect system. The stuff they added has been more social vs technical. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. A tire fire on Stravas decision here. So whats not been mentioned in the article (because this is about consumer fee changes) is the revenue they get from selling the aggregated data to councils and professional services that then use the information on walking, running, cycling to inform city design, to bike and running shoe companies on market share, product longevity/ consumer demographics, etc. Wonder how much of these price increases are needed to cover the costs of their mainstream advertising campaigns? Still true that they need to communicate better. Do you have a favorite hill sprint that youre eager to PR? Hope you know what I mean. And arrangements like you suggest are usually frowned upon by regulators I think. Subscriber since February 19, 2022, Your annual membership will automatically renew on February 19, 2023 for $59.99 Then to make matters worse, if I create a burner account, if I go premium with that, its only $80 a year so $16 less then Ive been paying for 3 years. Once I bought the edge 530, I got onto Garmin Connect. It doesnt provide me anything I dont know from other devices. Left them a nice note they will ignore im sure. So: link to bundesnetzagentur.de. Don't think you need strava premium if you're not interested in the social stuff. Training plans are included with a subscription to Strava. Finally, ensure that you have the same iCloud account synced to both your iPhone and your Apple Watch. If I complain, theyll give me a year at intro rates? You can see it briefly in the video around the 8-9 min marker when I start the VPN. affiliate commission. Im not a Strava user, and not willing to sign up to get data for a case here, but I think its worth a shot if someone else is willing to report it. is this possible? Garmin Connect has it's own training plans. On a related note: Any news on price moves from Zwift? Im not kidding, you cant make this up. 7. BUT they had to exert effort I guess. www.strava.com. In the past 10 years, Strava has added countless new features including support for more than 40 sport types, Beacon, route recommendations, an online route builder tool, global and personal heatmaps, segment leaderboards and custom goals and progress. Copyright Wareable Ltd. All rights reserved. These might have 100s of times registered while one of the most beautiful an challenging mountains I've ever climbed has 70. 4. When costs and plans are adjusted, were always working to improve your experience and invest in the value delivered to you on a daily basis. I agree. Count me as one of the Roller Ski users! Struggling to bike 100m without getting tired, Press J to jump to the feed. Based on your article I 100% agree with your assessment. Select a distance range, hilly/flat/dealers choice and then hit go. I have not been a premium member to Strava for a few years and have been thinking about upgrading. My eyes rolled into the back of my head when I saw corporate babble speak like we are consistently investing in the value of our subscription experience to deliver a best-in-class digital experience and Our priority is giving you a unique experience for a holistic view of your active lifestyle. The storage would for almost every user fall under the free limits things like email services. For people that are not socially connected (like me) Garmin Connect works really very well. are left to users to flag. Take your preparation to the next level with this training plan from CTS. The high-quality AMOLED display allows you to see a large amount of data in a very short period of time without having to dig through your phone. We remain committed to delivering value to our active community on a daily basis. Almost fell off my chair, think that should be $59/annually? These are reasonable consumer protection laws. 1. Each has unique features that I use. (Think those cheap tvs and other crap). Same as anything. I remember at the time Garmin had something similar (compare to other people etc..) but then Strava became popular and I think they abandoned it. WTAF? @$60, OK have my money but I mostly use Premium for routes. Garmin doesn't really have those social things. So given Strava is unable to provide their own product pricing, for even just one country, Im gonna figure this out myself. Everything was $59 a year but was changed to a monthly model back in 2020 at a cost of 7.99 a month (or $96 a year) and I cant seem to find an email documenting that change. Theyll auto sync. AFAIK they can charge differently within the EU but they *MUST* provide the possibility to change your location so that you can get the cheaper Spanish price, too. [..] Bureaucracy is the death of any achievement. Secondly, you included the name of the Strava PR human in their final response email, guessing you might want to cut that as you blocked it in the video? Renewed in October. Required fields are marked.If you would like a profile picture, simply register at Gravatar, which works here on DCR and across the web. Im based in the UK, my subscription is, and has alway been, 47.99gbp and is due to renew on February 19 for the same price. Once you have the GPX file, you can upload it to Strava using the Upload button on the Strava website. Once you have found a plan you like: For Cycling plans, select Set . I enjoy using Strava, but hiding an increased cost and hoping people dont notice is straight up bad business. This is such a clusterfuck. I got an email with receipts since 2013, signed: So far its still showing $59.99 renewal March 30th. The only nice thing was the review at the end of the year. 3. link to europa.eu. Some companies eat that from their own profit, others pass it along to the consumer. (2020 was paid some other way). To add to the data points, checked my US account and apparently will get billed $59 for the year in July. UK here, subscribed annually via Google Play. Theres no reason that people accidentally recording their drive home, people whove been flagged for ebike use, etc. Hey DC, when you say they didnt raise prices I distinctly recall years ago they suddenly carved the membership up by what state you were after. Interesting. Mainly because its my job to write about new Strava features. I will cancel if they raise my accountperiod. Paid CHF 64 last year, and its marked for the same at renewal next month. Garmin Connect isn't nearly as fun or motivating as Strava - however, luckily, you don't have to choose one or the other. But its hard to support the you have to spend money to save money because its like digging for daylight. Managed to change to the annual subscription via app.thanks for headup. I use garmin connect and I subscribe to strava. not sure if they actually ask for that price though. He is a journalist and a blogger, who I trust. BUT they *must* enable their EU customers to shop the cheapest EU price whether they are based in said country or not. strava route planner, what do the lines mean? In 2022, well look back at the best Apple Watches, the best Garmin Watches, and the best fitness tracking devices. Users of Strava who use an Apple Watch or iPhone with Strava can sync their workouts to Apple Health, which means they dont need to rely on a third-party workaround. When a customer wants to buy an electronically supplied service, such as cloud services, data warehousing or website hosting, from a trader established in another Member State. With Carl J and CowRobs comments, I returned to my account and found an affirmative statement next to the Billing entry, Your next bill will be on December 6, 2023, for $59.99, paid with a credit card ending in XXXX.. The oldest activities in Connect are from 2008, but I think I started using its predecessor in 2007 when I started using my Garmin 60CSx regularly. and yes, good catch on GBP symbol. Except, I have no idea what itll increase to, and I will apparently receive a notice 30 days before. When Strava replaced its CEO a few years ago with one of the original founders, they pissed off a lot of non-subscribers by removing features for free accounts. Please Help Us: If you are planning to buy anything from Directly from Wahoo now or in the future, please click on the relevant banner. Last year I decided not to renew . If you follow the Netflix/other country specific subscription model, youd expect here to be cheaper on account of the generally significantly lower income level but its telling me it will renew for 6300 PHP annually. Anyone We get it. @mikethank you! Ive been using Connect since before Garmin acquired it (it was called something like Motionbased when I first started using it). Start your. 2. If you dont want to wear a running watch, you can use the Garmin Vivosmart 5. BTW you really need a Mastodon account , Im not super great with it yet, mostly a Twitter back-up, but its: @dcrainmaker@mas.to. No kidding. All that said, Ill re-up my annual premium membership because in the course of 12 months I find that I get at least $80 worth of value. Can I switch to 49 EUR if I cancel and renew now? If however, you sift long enough through Reddit threads, you eventually find a thread that talks about a support article Strava posted (or updated) on Saturday that attempts to outline what they are doing, price-wise. I am beginner cyclist and recently bought an Edge 530. The annual cost if I subscribe via Google Play is 49.99, but if I subscribe via their website its 79.99. Connect the device to your computer. Only value I get is trolling local clubs to see what their frequent routes are. And monthly prices from $5.99 to $11.99 (a price doubling!). Companies have to pay employees more to stay competitive (especially for tech companies), and other infrastructure costs have also risen. Im not renewing Strava this year. Playing it safe and cancelling Runkeepers annual subscription is 30 or I can continue with the Strava free package. For example you go onto get a price for a flight, and when you go back to recheck and possibly book, the price has gone up. Just finished a 12 week Zwift FTP 'Build We get it. But; click on the pay button and it says $99.99 will be billed. She did the best she could with the paper bag of poop she was handed: So, let me try and simplify this for you, heres the distilled version: We, Strava, will increase your price if you live in a random smattering of countries. Typical! Newspapers do the same thing. With all these price games, I wonder if Zwift has something coming up for those that use it. I have the feeling that if it goes by "demand" I'll miss out on the best stuff. I spent ~10 years of my life as a Commercial Lender (i.e., doing bank loans to businesses), and I suspect youd be shocked by the number of companies out there that are run by complete idiots who just happened to stumble upon a single great product. Child Topics: Using the Strava Segment Explore Widget; Parent Topic: Segments . Is there an epic climb on your bucket list that youd just love to check off? Nothing from them yet. I HATE social media The drama and BS just gets so stupid with some groups. OK, I didnt create an account, I just gave up. I want to hear more about the preferred platform clause. I dont see why anyone would pay for Strava premium. thats done often, e. g. when you sign up for Netflix they show different prices to gauge what people would be ok with to pay. Think of Facebook (Meta) combined with Airbnb to form, what I believe is the most useful biking app created. I guess they have until October to sort it or theyll lose at least one more subscriber (and then their USD costs wont be paid regardless). We should ask them for a different icon on our profile pic. Not for most users i suspect but the data may say otherwise. It seems it may stay the same but why the heck I pay 10 living in Portugal than in Spain?? Funny. My account is in the UK and I seem to be billed in Euros for some reason. They could trim some of the features of the free level, but having a Plus option would make it clear what people are paying for, and identify it as a separate product with different pricing. The easiest way to get your workout data into TrainingPeaks is to sync your device (e.g., your Garmin watch, Wahoo heart rate monitor, etc.) I didnt go for that either. Im not a social creature (wish I could turn everyone else off on Zwift and just admire the scenery), and the people I follow I discovered using flyby on Strava mostly before Strava made flyby less useful. ps. Our priority is giving you a unique experience for a holistic view of your active lifestyle. And TrainerRoad is insane. It might get expensive, but I can easily trade it for all the event entry fees that I no longer pay. I see no new features that have me inclined to subscribe again, only the offering of things that were once free. 2. Strava have the morals of a sewer rat. That maybe just an idea but who knows so far And plenty more still, like myself and my wife, show no price increase either (nor did I receive an e-mail). Subscribed for a few months at 3.99. All of this really makes me question their claim of crossing the 100-million user count. 5. The idea being to focus on features subscribers wanted. When you begin a recording, Strava gains access to the GPS hardware, allowing it to detect when a signal has been received and when an active period has begun. So your may jump on 28 September. Wow! Dollars would work out cheaper for me . You cannot be charged more or prevented from buying something just because you live in another country. Strava Premium really doesn't add much value, I supported the platform for a while..but I jumped ship as Strava has done very little to keep up with the times of all the other ride analysis platforms that do it better. 2. I was wondering if it was possible to assign runs that have synced from Garmin to Strava to a specific training day, like the Nike Running App. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. As a contrarian I cross my fingers for a huge increase, because I will definitely recalculate how much I save in each month, in each year and also in the remaining part of my life expectancy for not being a Strava subsriber. Just my thoughts Yeah, Strava can be improved. Their competitors are free. My subscription per Google, renewing on January 31, still shows $7.99/month I have an invoice dated January 2023 for $129.00, and in the app it says itll renew in March for $189.99. Yet, I paid the sub fees, because for what I do, theyre among the biggest players, and being able to talk intelligently about how they compare to said other devices, or, when they announce to features, how they compare to previous. But damn damn Strava the least you could do is treat us like we are reasonable intelligent folks and simply communicate with us. Says my account will renew for the same $59/yr in October. As a point of information, I did look at the support article from poor Meg. As a sport and tech enthusiast, I am thankful for Rays input. Garmin Connect is a mess. Take your preparation to the next level with this training plan from CTS. Strava app now says that the renewal fee will be A$99.99. Very proud of this run as it's the furthest I've ever Cancelled in protest - collective action works #solidarity . We will charge you what you will pay. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It is the Xfinity/Comcast model. Same goes for the global heatmap and your personal heatmap. If the price goes up and if thats how theyre going to treat their customers, Ill cancel. Segments only work with many users. I dont know how many would pony up their money after being being forced to do so after Stravas free service is all but ended or made useless. A price change was recently enacted to reflect the growing subscription features, as well as local market changes. It will eventually come late, as it did when they tried the weird split of premium features and then recombining it (both were similarly poorly implemented). Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. bikeit! Open the Garmin Connect app on your iPhone and go to the Devices menu. I owe Strava a big thanks! However, Strava offers unique data. Itching to mix it up on that 4-8 minute hill climb youve had your sights set on for a while now? Training app monolith Strava has responded to a chorus of criticism over recent price hikes for its premium subscription service. I wonder if using a vpn to sign up in Spain will gain you a cheaper price. renewal notice last Oct. This happens through delivering you value on a daily basis through new features, product updates and services. It was with Paypal in November 2021. Strava is Sports answer of Facebook for me, share info about workouts with friends, give kudos and comments. Im based in the US and have paid them since 2016. However, there are three methods you can use to export workout data from Strava to TrainingPeaks. Super awkward. That appears to be set from whatever country you instantiated the account at (like, where the computer was). Length 32.2 miElevation gain 15,935 ftRoute type Point to point. So, I circled back again, asking again in one line what the USD/GBP/EUR pricing is for monthly/annual subscriptions. It cant take that much time to get a file of MY data! And then each time I dug further, the rabbit hole deepened, and the absurdity of it expanded. Their core problem is lack of innovation and developing new innovative features. And, theyre going to try to secretly increase their price and hope no one notices? for March 2nd). Is that really worth 60us$ / year. Free is the only version worth the money, Diva! I left embarrassed for humanity that so many fall for their games, and most are right in daylight, perfectly legal. 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